SCAA FAQ - Black Film

FAQ 76 - Black Film

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From: patm@fc.hp.com (Patrick Murphy)

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William R Faulkner Jr (faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu) wrote:

: I'm having a friend out with a program for FSU's Black Student Union and

: would like to get some help from my fellow SCAA members.

: What would you consider to be the best Black Film(s) of all-times?

My votes-->

To Sleep With Anger

Straight Out of Brooklyn

Malcolm X

Do the Right Thing

--patrick

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From: gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu

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Subject: Re: ALL TIME BLACK MOVIES

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In article <31jnb3$gtj@tadpole.fc.hp.com> you write:

>William R Faulkner Jr (faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu) wrote:

>: I'm having a friend out with a program for FSU's Black Student Union and

>: would like to get some help from my fellow SCAA members.

>: What would you consider to be the best Black Film(s) of all-times?

>My votes-->

> To Sleep With Anger

> Straight Out of Brooklyn

> Malcolm X

> Do the Right Thing

I'd add Menace II Society

and In The Heat of The Night.

I like your choices of Malcolm X and Do The Right Thing (haven't seen

To Sleep With Anger so I can't comment), but I strongly have to disagree

with Straight Out of Brooklyn-- I thought it was one of the worst

directed, poorly acted pieces of crap I've seen for some time!

>--patrick

Dan

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Subject: Re: ALL TIME BLACK MOVIES

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"A Patch of Blue", I think. The book was good, too.

-- Gail

In article <1994Aug1.203151.618@news.yale.edu> objak@minerva.cis.yale.edu

(Oliver Karp (GD 1995)) writes:

>What's the Sidney Poitier film about a man who befriends a blind woman.

>She doesn't realize that he is black. Early sixties, I think. The word

>"blue" is in the title.

>Worth seeing.

>-OBK

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From: patm@fc.hp.com (Patrick Murphy)

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Subject: Re: ALL TIME BLACK MOVIES

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gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu wrote:

patm@fc.hp.com wrote:

: > Here's my vote-->

: >

: > To Sleep With Anger

: > Straight Out of Brooklyn

: > Malcolm X

: > Do the Right Thing

: >

: I'd add Menace II Society

: and In The Heat of The Night.

Two classics... shoulda had 'em in my list but my brain

was in overdrive ;)

: I like your choices of Malcolm X and Do The Right Thing (haven't seen

: To Sleep With Anger so I can't comment), but I strongly have to disagree

You gotta catch To Sleep With Anger... Dan Glover is tremendous

and the contrast of generations is well done.

: with Straight Out of Brooklyn-- I thought it was one of the worst

: directed, poorly acted pieces of crap I've seen for some time!

To me, the poor directing/acting was the appeal. No slicked-

out Hollywood stuff... just meat & potatoes.

Best,

patrick

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From: gt4364c@prism.gatech.edu (Charles L. Judson)

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In article <199408012221.SAA07745@acmez.gatech.edu>,

<gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:

> > To Sleep With Anger

This is the movie to show. It got little play in the mainstream.

This is the kind of stuff we need more of. I loved Menace II Society, but

everyone and their mother has heard of it...so I wouldn't recommend it.

>I'd add Menace II Society

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From: thughes@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Tom Hughes)

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: What would you consider to be the best Black Film(s) of all-times?

How about the following:

Stormy Weather

The Brother From Another Planet

Black Orpheus

A Patch of Blue (this is the one with Sidney Poitier referred to earlier)

: The only real restraint on your reply, is a film that can be seen by a

: large number of people at one time.

What does that mean? Wouldn't it depend on the size of the screen?

Tom

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By black films, do mean those directed by black directors, or those that

feature stories starring and about African_Americans?

-Roger

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From: tedt@coho.halcyon.com (Ted Thompson)

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objak@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Oliver Karp (GD 1995)) writes:

>What's the Sidney Poitier film about a man who befriends a blind woman.

>She doesn't realize that he is black. Early sixties, I think. The word

>"blue" is in the title.

>Worth seeing.

>-OBK

"A Patch of Blue".

Ted

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From: tedt@coho.halcyon.com (Ted Thompson)

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>: > Here's my vote-->

>: >

>: > To Sleep With Anger

>: > Straight Out of Brooklyn

>: > Malcolm X

>: > Do the Right Thing

>: >

>: I'd add Menace II Society

>: and In The Heat of The Night.

> Two classics... shoulda had 'em in my list but my brain

> was in overdrive ;)

>: I like your choices of Malcolm X and Do The Right Thing (haven't seen

>Best,

>patrick

I would certainly add "Nothing But a Man" to this list.

Ted

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From: proed@shrsys.hslc.org (STEPHANIE MCNEAL)

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I have a special place in my heart for Cabin In The Sky.

--Stephanie

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From: Wistful <wistful@delphi.com>

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Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

What's the old movie whre the black maid has to deal with her mixed daughter

wanting to be white? Now that was a good movie. I also like lady sings the

blues.

Oh, and Hollywood shuffle and New Jack City.

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From: ukachkwc@topi.cig.mot.com (Christian E. Ukachukw)

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> > To Sleep With Anger

> > Straight Out of Brooklyn

> > Malcolm X

> > Do the Right Thing

> >

>I'd add Menace II Society

>and In The Heat of The Night.

>I like your choices of Malcolm X and Do The Right Thing (haven't seen

>To Sleep With Anger so I can't comment), but I strongly have to disagree

>with Straight Out of Brooklyn-- I thought it was one of the worst

>directed, poorly acted pieces of crap I've seen for some time!

>Dan

>--

>Daniel Jude Bredy

>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332

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I'll have to agree with Dan, Straight Out of Brooklyn IMO was a stinky

piece of crap.

Chris U.

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*definitely* Black Orpheus

Do the Right Thing

Hollywood Shuffle (though the sarcasm gets almost painful at times)

Hm. Does "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" count?

--April (I don't knw what art is, but...)

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In article <JqyTrtx.wistful@delphi.com> Wistful <wistful@delphi.com> writes:

> Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

> What's the old movie whre the black maid has to deal with her mixed daughter

>wanting to be white? Now that was a good movie. I also like lady sings the

>blues.

> Oh, and Hollywood shuffle and New Jack City.

"Imitation of Life". There were actually two movies by that title: one

circa 1930s and the more famous one in the mid-fifties, with Lana

Turner (?) BTW, I understand the actress who played the daughter "trying to

pass" died recently .....

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From: gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu

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In article <JqyTrtx.wistful@delphi.com> you write:

> Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

Why? I'll leave it on my list, all the same-- thanks for the advice though.

> What's the old movie whre the black maid has to deal with her mixed daughter

>wanting to be white?

Imitation of Life.

> Now that was a good movie.

Agreed.

I also like lady sings the

>blues.

> Oh, and Hollywood shuffle and New Jack City.

Hollywood Shuffle was great! But New Jack City? (Wesley Snipes'

great performance nonwithstanding of course...)

Dan

Daniel Jude Bredy

Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332

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From: tedt@chinook.halcyon.com (Ted Thompson)

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>"Imitation of Life". There were actually two movies by that title: one

>circa 1930s and the more famous one in the mid-fifties, with Lana

>Turner (?) BTW, I understand the actress who played the daughter "trying to

>pass" died recently .....

Fredi Washington, who played Peola in the original "Imitation of Life"

died recently.

Ted

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From: dried@cup.hp.com (Don Ried)

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William R Faulkner Jr (faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu) wrote:

: What would you consider to be the best Black Film(s) of all-times?

Well, I don't know about "best" but here are a couple of goodies:

In The Heat of The Night

A Raisin In The Sun -- with Sidney Poitier

A movie that I haven't seen in years, and one that doesn't even turn up

as the 3 AM TV movie, is "Island In The Sun" with Harry Belafonte and

Dorothy Dandridge. (Ms. Dandridge was nominated for the Best Actress

Academy Award for her role in Carmen Jones.) It was a very daring movie

in its day and I would love to see it again.

Don Ried

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From: sunshin100@aol.com (Sunshin100)

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Subject: Re: ALL TIME BLACK MOVIES

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In article <CtxrGC.ILu@cup.hp.com>, dried@cup.hp.com (Don Ried) writes:

"Five On The Black Hand Side," because it ushered in films made by African

Americans for African Americans. The writer director was black and went

on to do a number of other films such as "Truck Turner," "Black Belt

Jones" and others. He and his film were pace setters.

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'imitation of life'

Wistful (wistful@delphi.com) ever so cleverly scribbled:

: Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

: What's the old movie whre the black maid has to deal with her mixed daughter

: wanting to be white? Now that was a good movie. I also like lady sings the

: blues.

: Oh, and Hollywood shuffle and New Jack City.

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From: authority1@aol.com (AUTHORITY1)

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Subject: Re: ALL TIME BLACK MOVIES

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In article <31n2f5$s48@search01.news.aol.com>, sunshin100@aol.com

(Sunshin100) writes:

One of the top 10 Black films of all time, now being released in home

video format is "NOTHING BUT A MAN" starring Ivan Dixon and Abbey Lincoln,

an uplifting story about a man and a woman whose bond overcomes racial and

class barriers. Even Siskel and Ebert hailed it as Terrific and gave it

Two Thumbs Up. I enjoyed it back in the 1960's and I just found out about

its release, and, if you're interested, E-Mail Authority1 and I'll let

anyone know when and where to get theirs. The soundtrack features Stevie

Wonder, Martha and the Vandellas, The Miracles, Mary Wells and The

Marvelettes. I remember this as being one of the primary performances of

the era that offered powerful universal themes of love and human

integrity. I enjoyed it then and I'm looking forward to enjoying it again.

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my favorites:

'killer of sheep' - directed by burnett

'deep cover' - directed by bill duke, starring larry fishburne

'carmen jones' w/ dandridge

'sankofa' by haile gerima

'ceddo' by ousman sembenne

'def by (temptation?)' starring kadeem hardison

'city of hope' by john sayles

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From: Wistful <wistful@delphi.com>

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<gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu> writes:

>In article <JqyTrtx.wistful@delphi.com> you write:

> > Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

>Why? I'll leave it on my list, all the same-- thanks for the advice though.

> > Oh, and Hollywood shuffle and New Jack City.

>Hollywood Shuffle was great! But New Jack City? (Wesley Snipes'

>great performance nonwithstanding of course...)

How can you like M2Society over NJcity??? Menace to society had no plot

and was so boring. It's just a 90's exploitation flick. Now New Jack City

was good. Unfortunately it spawned all these wanabees.

Besides, didn't you just love Christopher Williams' performance in NJC?

Wistful

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From: dlh@duke.edu (Darryl Hamilton)

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In article <JqyTrtx.wistful@delphi.com> Wistful <wistful@delphi.com> writes:

> Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

I agree....

> What's the old movie whre the black maid has to deal with her mixed daughter

>wanting to be white? Now that was a good movie. I also like lady sings the

>blues.

The name of that movie was "an Imitation of Life" a very good movie.

Especially the funeral scene when Mihalia(sp?) Jackson sings that song.

I forget the name right now, but it was really something.

Bring plenty of guns, money and lawyers, the shit is about to hit the fan!!

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Darryl Hamilton.| Duke Univ. Dept. of Geology

dlh@rogue.geo.duke.edu

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From: gt4364c@prism.gatech.edu (Charles L. Judson)

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If you wanna see a funky movie, see Water Melon Man. It's about

a white man you lives a "normal" life until he wakes up one morning

as a Black man. It's funny and makes you think. It was made by Mario Van

Peeples father in the early 70's late 60's.

* Charles L. Judson...The Man...The Legend...The Negroid! * My Slave Name

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From: gt4364c@prism.gatech.edu (Charles L. Judson)

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Oh and saw the premire of D.R.O.P. Squad the other day. It was

for the national Black Arts Festival. It was produced by Spike Lee,

and it's Director did a SLAMMING job. It comes out in October. It's

about a Black Ad Executive who pretty much sells out. So his sister

asks for Help from the D.R.O.P. Squad. D.R.O.P. stands for Deprogramming

and Restoration of Pride. It wasn't a total comedy, but wasn't total

drama either. It hit hard and made it's points.

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From: mmb@carib.ho.att.com (Maurice Burns)

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The one from my top ten list that no one has mentioned.

The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman

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From: kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup)

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In article <pW8ST75.wistful@delphi.com>

Wistful <wistful@delphi.com> says:

>Besides, didn't you just love Christopher Williams' performance in NJC?

<snicker> Yeah, all 5 lines of it.

("Wistful" is female!)

-Kenny

Kenneth R. Crudup, Unix Systems Consultant kenny@world.std.com

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Home +1 617 524 5929 Home Fax +1 617 983 9410 Team OS/2 wannabe

One of the millions betting on OS/2. Let's just hope IBM doesn't screw it up.

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From: jeff@hybrid.com (Jeff Spirer)

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In article <31kg1g$sj6@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, thughes@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Tom Hughes) writes:

|> Stormy Weather

|> The Brother From Another Planet

Great film.

|> Black Orpheus

This is an incredible film. Anyone who hasn't seen it should check it out.

|> A Patch of Blue (this is the one with Sidney Poitier referred to earlier)

Another older Sidney Poitier film I saw (and have somewhere on tape) is

called something like "God, The Devil, xxx", and I know that this is

wrong, but it is an excellent film in which Poitier plays a miner caught

underground during a nuclear-type holocaust. He ends up in NYC and the

only other person there is a bigoted white woman (can't remember who

plays her.) Very stark and bleak movie, reflects the fear of nuclear

war that was pervasive in the 50s and early 60s and hits racism head

on.

Another movie of interest, not necessarily a "Black Movie" but definitely

worth seeing is an English movie from the late 50s called "Saphire" about

a murdered woman who had been "passing" as white and how racism was the

cause of her death. Another very bleak movie, with a lot of interesting

scenes of how blacks lived in London at the time.

Finally, what about "The Harder They Come?" I realize it is not in the

same category with some of the others, but it is one of the best music

movies ever made and it introduced reggae into the US. It's available

on tape although the cheap Jamaican print the tape is made from is

a little sorry, but this story of a young singer (played by Jimmy

Cliff) trying to become a hero is worth seeing.

Jeff

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From: exumbe@exu.ericsson.se (Melissa Bell)

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In article xB@world.std.com, kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup) writes:

>In article <pW8ST75.wistful@delphi.com>

>Wistful <wistful@delphi.com> says:

>>Besides, didn't you just love Christopher Williams' performance in NJC?

><snicker> Yeah, all 5 lines of it.

>("Wistful" is female!)

> -Kenny

I was not impressed by Christopher Williams's acting debut either. Although,

I would not consider M2 Society as an "all time" best black movie, I did think

that it was a good movie. I didn't see it as exploitation because this is the

reality of many people (unfortunately). I thought that it just showed things

as they are (which I admit are a bit harsh).

Some of my favorite films were definitely exploitation films. That's why I

haven't listed any. However, I do think that "Imitation of Life" was definitely

one of the best.

/Melissa

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From: thornton@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Tommy Thornton)

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What about look who's coming to dinner? Not actually a black movie but, it

was a good performance by Sydney P. A tad unrealistic though.

-t3

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how 'bout, "claudine"?

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my "address" is my company's, but

my opinions are, thankfully, my own.

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From: tedt@coho.halcyon.com (Ted Thompson)

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>Another older Sidney Poitier film I saw (and have somewhere on tape) is

>called something like "God, The Devil, xxx", and I know that this is

>wrong, but it is an excellent film in which Poitier plays a miner caught

>underground during a nuclear-type holocaust. He ends up in NYC and the

>only other person there is a bigoted white woman (can't remember who

>plays her.) Very stark and bleak movie, reflects the fear of nuclear

>war that was pervasive in the 50s and early 60s and hits racism head

>on.

You are referring to "The World, The Flesh and the Devil" and it starred

Harry Belafonte, Mel Ferrer and Inger Stevens.

Ted

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From: msmocha@aol.com (Ms Mocha)

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In article <1994Aug3.180254.14958@exu.ericsson.se>, exumbe@exu.ericsson.se

(Melissa Bell) writes:

> Some of my favorite films were definitely exploitation films. That's

why I

> haven't listed any. However, I do think that "Imitation of Life" was

definitely

> one of the best.

I ALWAYS cry when Mahalia Jackson sings "The Troubles of the World." No

matter how I try to steel myself, I end up bawling into my soup...

> /Melissa

Ms Mocha (who would have loved to die in the '60's so she could have

Mahalia sing at her funeral)

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From: lgainor@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Larry Gainor)

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In article <31o9di$iun@acmez.gatech.edu>,

Charles L. Judson <gt4364c@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:

> If you wanna see a funky movie, see Water Melon Man. It's about

>a white man you lives a "normal" life until he wakes up one morning

>as a Black man. It's funny and makes you think. It was made by Mario Van

>Peeples father in the early 70's late 60's.

>--

I also liked "Watermelon Man" though I didn't find Godfrey Cambridge's

whiteface makeup all that convincing (but I only saw it on a 10 year

old TV).

Curious to see if anyone else saw "Putney Swope" and what they thought

of it.

Larry Gainor

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From: James Johnson <james1651@delphi.com>

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My Favorites:

Carmen Jones.(BTW - there was a movie that starred Dorothy Dandridge a

and Ha

rry Belafonte. She was a school teacher and he was a principal. And there was

this kid who had problems when one of the students died.)

Imitation of Life

Goodbye St. Louis Blues - (Any movie with Eartha Kitt)

Shaft - (Please don't laugh at this one. This movie wasn't that bad. Plus

Isaac Hayes score for this movie was GREAT.)

Do The Right Thing

To Sleep With Anger

PEACE

James Johnson

UNIX SysAdmin in Training

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From: Wistful <wistful@delphi.com>

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Kenneth R Crudup <kenny@world.std.com> writes:

>In article <pW8ST75.wistful@delphi.com>

>Wistful <wistful@delphi.com> says:

>>Besides, didn't you just love Christopher Williams' performance in NJC?

><snicker> Yeah, all 5 lines of it.

>("Wistful" is female!)

> -Kenny

Glad I didn't have to put in a smiley face for you to get the joke.

...and of course I'm female! I never did like that pretty @#! CW

Wist

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lgainor@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Larry Gainor) says:

>I also liked "Watermelon Man" though I didn't find Godfrey Cambridge's

>whiteface makeup all that convincing (but I only saw it on a 10 year

>old TV).

It is as equally unconvincing on a newer set. :-)

-Kenny

Kenneth R. Crudup, Unix Systems Consultant kenny@world.std.com

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My list is short because most of the good ones have already been taken.

But I like......

STORMY WEATHER

1945, 20th Century-Fox, with Lena Horne, Bill Robinson, Dooley Wilson,

Fats Waller, Cab Calloway and man others. There's also that great Black

comedy team (whose name escapes me at the moment) who used to have a

conversation, but neither one would let the other one finish the

sentence, so you didn't know what they were talking about! But *they*

knew what they were talkibng about, and it was hilarious. I've seen

their routine copied by white comedians in later films.

Gregg Sneirson gregg.sneirson@channel1.com

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As I fly throught cyberspace I just want to say I second (or third,

haven't read the whole thread) brother from another planet.

Okolo

okolo@virginia.edu

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From: faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu (William R Faulkner Jr)

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Roger Brown (brownro@netcom.com) wrote:

: By black films, do mean those directed by black directors, or those that

: feature stories starring and about African_Americans?

: -Roger

I'll leave that to you. I'm just looking for suggestions.

Tiger

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From: cworkman@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (CpWorkman)

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I'd like to add:

1. Cabin In the Sky

2. A Dry White Season

3. Daughters of the Dust--still fairly new, but I thinks its bound to be a

classic... I'd like to see more by J. Dash.

4. Carmen Jones

5. Cry Freedom

6. To Sir with Love, Raisin In The Sun, etc. --S. Poitier has been a great

inspiration to me. I really would like to see "A Patch of Blue"

7. Coming To America

8. Hollywood Shuffle

9. The Color Purple

10. The Josephine Baker Story -HBO movie starring Lynn Whitfield(?)

"An my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."~I Corinthians 2:4-5.

cworkman@cbis.ece.drexel.edu

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From: sandra_burgess@CoE.Drexel.edu (Sandy)

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In article <CtxrGC.ILu@cup.hp.com>, dried@cup.hp.com wrote:

> William R Faulkner Jr (faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu) wrote:

> : What would you consider to be the best Black Film(s) of all-times?

> Well, I don't know about "best" but here are a couple of goodies:

> In The Heat of The Night

> A Raisin In The Sun -- with Sidney Poitier

> A movie that I haven't seen in years, and one that doesn't even turn up

> as the 3 AM TV movie, is "Island In The Sun" with Harry Belafonte and

> Dorothy Dandridge. (Ms. Dandridge was nominated for the Best Actress

> Academy Award for her role in Carmen Jones.) It was a very daring movie

> in its day and I would love to see it again.

> Don Ried

I loved that movie as well.

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From: hiltone@aol.com (HiltonE)

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In article <31jhm2$qir@mailer.fsu.edu>, faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu (William R

Faulkner Jr) writes:

Shaft,

Uptown Saturday Night,

Cooley High

Nothing But A Man

Porgy and Bess

Do the Right Thing

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From: Kwame Bandele <bandele@delphi.com>

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In addition to many already mentioned:

- Sparkle

- Boyz in the Hood

- Malcolm X

If you want a good one for kids, I recommend "Brother Future."

Kwame

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The Five Heartbeats is a good one. I love the music.

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From: gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu (Daniel Jude Bredy)

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>In article <pW8ST75.wistful@delphi.com> you write:

><gt3655a@prism.gatech.edu> writes:

>>In article <JqyTrtx.wistful@delphi.com> you write:

>> > Please don't show Menace to Society as one of the all time black movies!

>>Why? I'll leave it on my list, all the same-- thanks for the advice though.

>> > Oh, and Hollywood shuffle and New Jack City.

>>Hollywood Shuffle was great! But New Jack City? (Wesley Snipes'

>>great performance nonwithstanding of course...)

> How can you like M2Society over NJcity??? Menace to society had no plot

>and was so boring. It's just a 90's exploitation flick.

I disagree. Menace II Society is a very well directed Urban horror movie,

all the more terrifying because the events depicted really could and often

do happen. Furthermore it did not suffer from the typical Hollywood

feelgood ending.

Now New Jack City

>was good. Unfortunately it spawned all these wanabees.

I didn't say it wasn't good. I said it was nothing special. A few good

performances (Wesley Snipes was phenomenal, and Chris Rock and Allen Payne

provided good supporting performances), but the characters were fairly

underdeveloped (and besides I hated Ice-T's performance, though it was

passable). Also it was a movie which was pretty much done in by its

excessive preachiness.

If you think M2S is a NJC wannabee I suggest you go see the two movies

again.

> Besides, didn't you just love Christopher Williams' performance in NJC?

You forgot the smiley. I think Christophe Williams' performance in NJC had

to be one of the worst I've ever seen, bar none. You were joking, right?

> Wistful

Dan

Daniel Jude Bredy

Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332

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In article <CtxrGC.ILu@cup.hp.com>, Don Ried <dried@cup.hp.com> wrote:

>William R Faulkner Jr (faulkner@xi.cs.fsu.edu) wrote:

>: What would you consider to be the best Black Film(s) of all-times?

Try "To Sir With Love". It stars Sidney Poitier.

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In article <1994Aug1.203151.618@news.yale.edu>,

Oliver Karp (GD 1995) <objak@minerva.cis.yale.edu> wrote:

>What's the Sidney Poitier film about a man who befriends a blind woman.

>She doesn't realize that he is black. Early sixties, I think. The word

>"blue" is in the title.

>Worth seeing.

>-OBK

"A Patch Of Blue"

Try reading the book also, its great.

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here's a question for jill. what was the name of euzhan palcy's other movie.

not dry white season but the girl coming of age in the cane... never mind.

'sugar cane alley'. i would say that this movie is just as good as sankofa.

i saw parts of 'wide sargasso sea' and it reminded me of sugar cane alley.

any comparisons?

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