niggers and bombs
Path: panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.primenet.com!ip214.msp.primenet.com!dsmyre From: dsmyre@primenet.com (Deborah Smyre) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 20:39:39 CST Organization: Primenet Lines: 21 Message-ID: <dsmyre.141.003F202D@primenet.com> References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip214.msp.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] louielou@engin.umich.edu (Luis Gilling) writes: >Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was caused >by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by blowing >up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call >placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was >responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did anyone >else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? I only heard that they're suspecting terrorists using a 1,000 lb. car bomb. With 17 innocent babies killed at the day care center there, let's pray it had nothing to do with NOI. I wondered if it was done by somebody who owed a lot on April 15th, since it was the Federal Building. But a car bomb is pretty extreme for a tax dodger. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!news.intercon.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.umass.edu!caen!NewsWatcher!user From: louielou@engin.umich.edu (Luis Gilling) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Oklahoma Bombing Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 14:54:07 -0500 Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 14 Message-ID: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.212.96.12 Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was caused by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by blowing up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did anyone else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? -- Luis Gilling louielou@engin.umich.edu "Never do your own work when there is somebody stupid enough to do it for you" author Unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!news.intercon.com!uhog.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: dci1@ix.netcom.com (D.C. Irving) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 19 Apr 1995 19:13:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n3nci$982@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-lb5-21.ix.netcom.com In <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> louielou@engin.umich.edu (Luis Gilling) writes: > >Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was caused >by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by blowing >up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call >placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was >responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did anyone >else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? Luis: Don't start jumping. Also mentioned was the Waco, TX, group. Hey! Just becasue there's a national or international organization that purports "good things" and activities, don't forget the weirdos that lurk everywhere, ready to do thier thing. DCI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Path: panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!eru.mt.luth.se!news.luth.se!sunic!sunic.sunet.se!seunet!news2.swip.net!doc.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!woodlawn!hipeirce From: hipeirce@woodlawn.uchicago.edu (Henry Istavan Peirce) Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing X-Nntp-Posting-Host: midway.uchicago.edu Message-ID: <D7D6LD.366@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: hipeirce@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: The University of Chicago References: <3n741d$s21@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:51:12 GMT Lines: 7 You know if the press had been told that a caller from the Presbyterian Church had just claimed responcibility for the bomb, no one would have reported it because it is just a foolish idea. I hope that they find out who did it soon and it proves to be a bunch of White-Supremists, so that people in the White community will wake up and realize how dangerous people like this are and recognize that they were spawned from that White culture. Hank ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!dunix.drake.edu!acad.drake.edu!jet001 From: jet001@acad.drake.edu Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 19 Apr 95 21:30:36 CST Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1995Apr19.213036@acad.drake.edu> References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> <3n3nci$982@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: acad.drake.edu In article <3n3nci$982@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, dci1@ix.netcom.com (D.C. Irving) writes: > In <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> louielou@engin.umich.edu > (Luis Gilling) writes: >> >>Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was > caused >>by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by > blowing >>up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call >>placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was >>responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did > anyone >>else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? > > Luis: Don't start jumping. Also mentioned was the Waco, TX, group. Hey! > Just becasue there's a national or international organization that > purports "good things" and activities, don't forget the weirdos that > lurk everywhere, ready to do thier thing. > > DCI And let's call it like it is. The media was irresponsible to repeat any unchecked rumor, and the Nation of Islam might have grounds for a lawsuit. Weirdo or not, that was irresponsible journalism, and I'm disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed. Jaki ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!newsfeed.pitt.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cais.com!cais3.cais.com!darkstar From: darkstar@cais3.cais.com (DarkStar) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 20 Apr 1995 03:20:23 GMT Organization: Internet Junkies Anonymous Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3n4jtn$1fb@news.cais.com> References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> <dsmyre.141.003F202D@primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cais3.cais.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Deborah Smyre (dsmyre@primenet.com) wrote the following words of wisdom: : I wondered if it was done by somebody who owed a lot on April 15th, since it : was the Federal Building. But a car bomb is pretty extreme for a tax dodger. Not funny. -- -------------------------- Sign below the dotted line -------------------- Welcome to my virtual reality! Ed Brown - darkstar@cais.com Copyright, 1995, Edwin Brown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Path: panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newshost.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!gw1.att.com!gw2.att.com!nntpa!ssbunews!not-for-mail From: ronald@ihalo.ih.att.com (-Ronald.H.Davis.) Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Message-ID: <D7C5D3.H2K@ssbunews.ih.att.com> Sender: news@ssbunews.ih.att.com (Netnews Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: ihalo.ih.att.com Organization: AT&T References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:27:03 GMT Lines: 19 In article <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12>, Luis Gilling <louielou@engin.umich.edu> wrote: > >Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was caused >by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by blowing >up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call >placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was >responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did anyone >else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? > i haven't heard this one. what i have heard is that middle eastern based terrorist groups [e.g. hamam and islamic gihad] are suspected. i have never heard of any connection between the nation of islam and these middle eastern groups. -- __ ______ __ / __/ | at&t, naperville il, usa _/ (_(_) / (_(_/_/_(_/ . ronald.h.davis@att.com "you can't get ahead while you're getting even" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: nattyreb@ix.netcom.com (Marpessa Kupendua) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 21 Apr 1995 02:07:41 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3n741d$s21@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-wil-del1-07.ix.netcom.com In <D7C5D3.H2K@ssbunews.ih.att.com> ronald@ihalo.ih.att.com (-Ronald.H.Davis.) writes: > >In article <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12>, >Luis Gilling <louielou@engin.umich.edu> wrote: >> >>Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was caused >>by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by blowing >>up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call >>placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was >>responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did anyone >>else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? >> >i haven't heard this one. what i have heard is that middle eastern >based terrorist groups [e.g. hamam and islamic gihad] are suspected. >i have never heard of any connection between the nation of islam and >these middle eastern groups. > The first brother is correct. The morning of the bombing it was originally reported as being the work of the Nation of Islam, I heard it with my own ears on CNN. Marpessa. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newshost.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: siouxie12@aol.com (Siouxie12) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 20 Apr 1995 20:37:58 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 3 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n6up6$acb@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <dsmyre.141.003F202D@primenet.com> Reply-To: siouxie12@aol.com (Siouxie12) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com No, it wasn't your imagination. On CNN, the first group named by name as a possible suspect was the Nation of Islam, and they said that an anonymous caller had called it in to the authorities. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!clpd-newsserver!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!nntp.sei.cmu.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cb4b+ From: Christiaan Blake <cb4b+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 07:33:06 -0400 Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <AjZYNmy00iVE81F7lD@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> <dsmyre.141.003F202D@primenet.com> <3n4jtn$1fb@news.cais.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <3n4jtn$1fb@news.cais.com> Deborah Smyre (dsmyre@primenet.com) wrote the following words of wisdom: > I wondered if it was done by somebody who owed a lot on April 15th, since >it was the Federal Building. But a car bomb is pretty extreme for a tax >dodger. I would just suggest to all of you people with any traffic violations not to even bother going to court. Just mail in your fine, in some places you can even pay by credit card over the phone. I know I would much rather get a blast from a bill than a bomb. Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: natturner@aol.com (Nat Turner) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 20 Apr 1995 09:18:31 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n5mv7$143@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3n3nci$982@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: natturner@aol.com (Nat Turner) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I think that any of these three groups may be responsible aside from the Nation of Islam or other Islamic groups : 1. Any remaining Branch Davidians- why? its obvious. Wednesday, was the second anniversary of WACO 2. Any combination of White power and white resistance groups - Why they hate ZOG (the federal Govt') and in OKC a lot of Black people work for the FEDs. 3. Posse Comitatus or any of the antitax/antiregulation groups in the west- Why the new mood of the govt is to end rancher and farmer subsidies as well as raise grazing fees, also Its tax time and what better way to complain about the high taxes . . . However, this incident plus the shame poltical trial against Malcolm's daughter plus the trial of the World trade center bombing and the new HARDLINE against Iran & Iraq prove the West is renewing its war against Third World People and the faith of Islam ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nshore!hathcok!cmort From: cmort@hathcok.nshore.org (Chris Morton) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Message-ID: <950420.064014.9P4.rnr.w165w@hathcok.nshore.org> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 06:40:14 EST References: <louielou-1904951454070001@141.212.96.12> <dsmyre.141.003F202D@primenet.com> Organization: Weigle Defense Force X-Newsreader: rnr v1.23 Lines: 36 dsmyre@primenet.com (Deborah Smyre) writes: > louielou@engin.umich.edu (Luis Gilling) writes: > >>Why did they even give news time to the idea that the bombing was caused >>by the Nation of Islam. I don't see what the Nation would gain by blowing >>up a building. All I know is that the news said that there was a call >>placed by an anonymous caller who claimed that the Nation of Islam was >>responsible for the bombing. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. Did anyone >>else hear this? Or was I just hearing things? > > I only heard that they're suspecting terrorists using a 1,000 lb. car bomb. > With 17 innocent babies killed at the day care center there, let's pray it > had > nothing to do with NOI. > > I wondered if it was done by somebody who owed a lot on April 15th, since it > was the Federal Building. But a car bomb is pretty extreme for a tax dodger. By the way, I believe that this was the BATF office which led to the BATF being sued by its own Black and female agents. According to "USA Today", one of the Oklahoma offices (I'm pretty sure this one) was found to have a Confederate flag and an "Oklahoma State Nigger Hunting License" hanging on the wall. I believe that other racist paraphenalia was also found. There was also a pattern of sexual harrassment, sexual discrimination, and racial discrimination. This hasn't received a lot of attention. I first heard of it on BET, then read about it with more details in "USA Today" a month or two ago. -- - BATF - NAMBLA with guns ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Path: panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!newshost!euchre!dana From: dana@wotangate.sc.ti.com (Dan Anderson, 3720) Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Message-ID: <1995Apr21.204153.14016@newshost.micro.ti.com> Sender: news@newshost.micro.ti.com Reply-To: dana@wotangate.sc.ti.com Organization: Texas Instruments Inc. Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 20:41:53 GMT Lines: 22 >You know if the press had been told that a caller from the Presbyterian >Church had just claimed responcibility for the bomb, no one would have reported >it because it is just a foolish idea. I hope that they find out who did it >soon and it proves to be a bunch of White-Supremists, so that people in the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >White community will wake up and realize how dangerous people like this are >and recognize that they were spawned from that White culture. >Hank From latest reports, it seems that you'll get your wish... --- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Dan Anderson | Texas Instruments, Inc. | "You can lead a horse to water, 12203 SW Freeway, Houston TX, M/S 714 | but you can't push him in." Voice: (713) 274-3720 | -anon Email: dana@wotangate.micro.ti.com | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ My opinions are my own, not TI's, and even I may sometimes disagree. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!dharma.ece.uiuc.edu!jon From: jon@dharma.ece.uiuc.edu (Jon Locker) Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american Subject: Re: Oklahoma Bombing Date: 22 Apr 1995 13:49:52 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Dept. of Elec. & Comp. Engineering Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3nb1i0$rqq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3n3nci$982@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> <3n5mv7$143@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dharma.ece.uiuc.edu In article <3n5mv7$143@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Nat Turner <natturner@aol.com> wrote: >I think that any of these three groups may be responsible aside from the >Nation of Islam or other Islamic groups : 1. Any remaining Branch >Davidians- why? its obvious. Wednesday, was the second anniversary of >WACO 2. Any combination of White power and white resistance groups - Why >they hate ZOG (the federal Govt') and in OKC a lot of Black people work >for the FEDs. 3. Posse Comitatus or any of the antitax/antiregulation >groups in the west- ...nice call... but who exactly are the Posse Comitatus? I've heard of a lot of the other white resistance groups, and I've heard the PC name before, but who are they? This whole thing reminds me of the movie, "Betrayed"... -- Jon Locker | "It is one Thing, to show a Man that he is in an Error, U of Illinois | and another, to put him in possession of Truth." j-locker@uiuc.edu | - John Locke =============================================================================