Cobb

co-sign on The Isis Papers! I bought that piece of trash at the used book store. I was mad I spent whatever I spent on it. Then I thought about it again and got madder because that meant I was at least the second fool who had bought that copy. I think I actually threw it out.

The Isis Papers, by Frances Cress Welsing

Wait....
Weren't you one of the people who ripped me a new one for saying that I thought the Isis Papers was bad?!?!?!?!?

Wasn't me. I've googled up old scaa stuff...

OK.
My bad.

oh geez..thanks for the book burning tip--as a Librarian, it really made my day. Ok, so what exactly didn't you like about Brewster Place? Naylor is one of my favorite authors too.

I read Naylor's book expecting something mindblowingly extraordinary. It was the first "black woman's" book I ever read, so I had no context. I basically went out and asked, what's the best book out there in Black Fiction, and was pointed to this which had won Book of the Year or some such. So I read it and it's a Ghetto tale about trifling black men and vengeful black women..hoo boy. Not what I wanted to hear, especially since I was in full blast Buppie mode.

The book gave me that feeling that people describe as 'Affirmative Action Stigma'. I kept thinking, this is considered the best we can do? If so I am completely disgusted with black literature. Fortunately I read Beloved shortly thereafter and my world was changed. When you are longing for the luxurious complex prose of Toni Morrison (and you don't know it) and you get the plain talk of Gloria Naylor, you are bound to be disappointed.

One more thing I should say, is having no real experience with black lit, being handed books like 'Their Eyes Were Watching God' as examples of the best had a negative effect on me early on. So I have always disliked dem book wid de venakaler spellin in em.

(Is anyone old enuf tuh recollect when duh newspapers used tuh quote dem Negroes like dis?)

What exactly did you not like about the Isis Papers? Theory? Prose? Research? Conclusions? Implications?

It simply sounded retarded. Furthermore, when I spoke to other black scholars I respected for their opinion of the book, they trashed it too. That included Van Sertima & Naim Akbar whom I spoke to personally.

I think the more African American researchers and scholars you talk to, the more you'll realize that the only people who believe Cress-Welsing's theories are naive undergrads and hoowinked people with no college level critical skills.

my god. where do i even start in stating my objections to the isis papers. some kid at work was reading it for a school assignment. i read half of this jaw droppingly stupid book and told the kids that in my estimation: "wesling is a fucking loon". i tried explaining that white people do have melanin in our skin, albeit not as much as blacks. you'd think an alleged head shrinker would have enough of an education in hard science to know this. any psychiatrist that doesn't know that white do have melanin out to have their licences revoked.

she starts off with so many false premises and simply runs with them, never questioning her own blatantly stupid assertions.

for instance she claims that jesus was black. any moron without a racial axe to grind can tell you that he was a. from the middle east. b. the middle east is in asia and c. jesus was probably arabic in appearance.

the woman is absolutely obsessed with black male genitalia and simply assumes white males are too. the cristian cross? black male genitalia. swastikas? big black dicks. guns? yep. you guessed it african tube steak.

honestly, i'm less concerned these days with white suppremacist holding blacks down than i am with this silly hag holding her own kind down. but what do i know i'm probably only projecting my black schlong envy off on her.

I think this book needs to be read more than once. When I see pictures of lynchings of my people, I always wonder why they had a pieace of clothe wrap around thier waist. Come to find out that white men always cut the penis of blackmen in the majority of the lynchings.

When I researched the tasmanian people (aboriginals) of Australia, there again Europeans cut of the penis of the men. Why? Before you just start saying its the worst book or this person is crazy your you should look for proof or just investigate the information. If alot of people studied history on thier own they would see what the Isis Papers is really about. What is the reason behind white men castrating black men when lynched?