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April 23, 2004
Duh!
Kevin Drum wonders aloud (may as well, since what's in his head isn't working) if something could be done to make affirmative action palatable to blacks and latinos if it weren't based on race.
A few posts later he acknowleges with resignation that: "57 percent of Americans continue to believe that Saddam Hussein gave "substantial support" to al-Qaida terrorists before the war with Iraq.."
So let's see if I get this straight. 57% of Americans are willing to be wrong in the politics of war and that's understandably not worth fighting, and yet he expects Americans to come correct on race?
Cannibis is bliss.
Posted by mbowen at April 23, 2004 03:36 PM
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Comments
There's somethign terribyl wrong with your page. Maybe it just looks weird on my platform (Windows 2000 professional). But for, like, a month or so there's been a huge black square at the top of your page.
Pardon me if You've addressed this issue in your blogging.
The End.
Posted by: TLL at April 23, 2004 03:46 PM
hmm. I know that I changed my banner for April Fool's day, but then changed it back. It's banner.gif and it's what it should be on my site. You're not using one of those non-Microsoft browsers are ya?
Posted by: cobb at April 23, 2004 04:04 PM
email me a screen shot if you could...
Posted by: cobb at April 23, 2004 04:04 PM
What?
Posted by: Kevin Drum at April 23, 2004 07:00 PM
To put it more plainly, race based affirmative action is political self-interest. It's something grown people ought to expect. Except white liberals, great traditional champions of such, now turning against it, expect everyone to turn with them.
If it is reasonable to suggest, as you do, that certain partisans will stick with their president in the face of reason, you must certainly understand political intransigence. As you say, it's not news. So how is it that expect ethnic partisans to give up the biggest bit of political patronage they've earned in all their suffrage?
How many people have been killed over Affirmative Action? Five? Six?
You don't get to suggest that ethnics give up race for class, simply because it's not fashionable with the non-ethnic left any longer. Then again, probably 57% of white liberals think Affirmative Action is just the kind of racism MLK was against.
No news there. Keep moving...
Posted by: cobb at April 23, 2004 07:16 PM
Just curious.. Where do you fall on the political compass? (my results)
I have a nit with that site's definition of the economic axis - I believe that if people were smart enough to see what was in their true best interests, we could get away with a totally free market. Unfortunately, as described here, most people don't seem to be, right now.
Posted by: Steve D at April 24, 2004 04:24 AM
Authoritarian Right but not much, both the last time I took it and this time.
Economic Left/Right: 1.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67
Posted by: Cobb at April 24, 2004 09:39 AM