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December 17, 2003
Nevermind: A Reversal on French Law
Analogies don't work, but I have come up with one that is close enough to the French situation that makes me think I jumped the gun in supporting Chirac's idea. Plus, something has changed.
Chirac today reneged on his promise to create two religious holidays along with his outlawing of 'conspicuous religious symbols' in French public schools. Having heard Warren Olney announce this made me rethink. Additionally, I considered a parallel.
In 1984 if you were a black woman who decided to wear cornrows to work, chances are you'd hear static about it. That would be especially the case at big corporate or law office. It was considered 'unprofessional'. Reason prevailed and the idea can be laughed at now, but back then it wasn't so funny. What if things had gone worse? Say that some black women were physically assaulted because of their choice of hair. Would black America have desired a law that banned such hairstyles in order to protect women from workplace violence? Hell no. We'd have wanted to find the smelly bastards who assaulted the women and have them dragged through the ugliest part of jail before standing trial.
And so it is with that image in mind that I now decline to support Chirac's idea. Certainly religious symbolism is more important than hairstyles. Although I think compromises are necessary to integration and that everyone should show some tolerance and on second thought I think there are less hamfisted ways of handling the situation.
Countering that slightly, rules of the corporate workplace, while not law have become annoying in themselves. And certain civil judgements against companies proven to sustain hostile environments tangentially works against the interests of tolerance, but I'd rather have that than Chirac's way now that I think about it.
Is secularism threatened by religious symbols? I never thought so. Tolerance is threatened by condescending law, and I believe that to be the case in France.
Posted by mbowen at December 17, 2003 01:48 PM
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Have you considered that black woman were not forced to have cornrows ?
A few years ago in France, there was not so many Muslim using it, but as Islamist(hard wing of muslim) are gaining ground, more are wearing because they are told to...
Not all of them of course but still...
I do agree that tolerance is something worth of teaching. And forbidding something without teaching their youngs some respect for diversity is only postponing the problem.
We have the same debate here in Montreal. We removed all sign of religion from our school to show respect to all those kids whit a different religion. Now, what do we do with their religious signs ?
Posted by: Eric at December 17, 2003 03:23 PM
I can't resist this joke email:
READ FROM TOP TO BOTTOM
FROM: Jo Goodwin, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 01, 2003
RE: Christmas Party
I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take
place
on December 23, starting at noon in the private function room at the
Grill
House. There will be a cash bar and plenty of drinks! We'll have a
small
band playing traditional carols...feel free to sing along. And don't be
surprised if our CEO shows up dressed as Santa Claus! A Christmas tree
will be lit at 1:00pm. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at
that time; however, no gift should be over $10.00 to make the giving of
gifts easy for everyone's pockets. This gathering is only for
employees!
Our CEO will make a special announcement at that time!
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Jo
FROM: Jo Goodwin, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 02, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish
employees.
We recognize that Chanukah is an important holiday, which often
coincides
with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year. However, from now
on
we're calling it our "Holiday Party." The same policy applies to any
other
employees who are not Christians or those still celebrating
Reconciliation
Day. There will be no Christmas tree present. No Christmas carols sung.
We
will have other types of music for your enjoyment.
Happy now?
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Jo
FROM: Jo Goodwin, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 03, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous
requesting a non-drinking table ... you didn't sign your name. I'm
happy
to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads,
"AA Only"; you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to
handle
this?
Somebody?
Forget about the gifts exchange, no gifts exchange are allowed since
the
union members feel that $10.00 is too much money and executives believe
$10.00 is a little chintzy.
NO GIFTS EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
FROM: Jo Goodwin, Human Resources Director
To: All Employees
DATE: October 04, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20 begins the
Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during
daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how
a
luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim
employees'
beliefs. Perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal
until
the end of the party- or else package everything for you to take it
home
in little foil doggy baggy. Will that work? Meanwhile, I've arranged
for
members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from
The dessert buffet and pregnant women will get the table closest to the
restrooms. Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not
have
to sit with Gay men, each will have their own table. Yes, there will be
flower arrangement for the Gay men's table. To the person asking
permission to cross dress, no cross-dressing allowed though. We will
have
booster seats for short people. Low-fat food will be available for
those
on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food we suggest for
those people with high blood pressure to taste first. There will be
fresh
fruits as dessert for Diabetics, the restaurant cannot supply "No
Sugar"
desserts. Sorry!
Did I miss anything?!?!?
Jo
FROM: Jo Goodwin, Human Resources Director
TO: All F…ing Employees
DATE: October 05, 2003
RE: The F…ing Holiday Party
Vegetarian pricks I've had it with you people!!! We're going to keep
this
party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit
quietly at the table furthest from the "grill of death," as you so
quaintly put it, and you'll get your fucking salad bar, including
organic
tomatoes. But you know, tomatoes have feelings, too. They scream when
you
slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right NOW!
I
hope you all have a rotten holiday! Drive drunk and die,
The Bitch from HELL!!!!!!!!
FROM: Joan Bishop, Acting Human Resources Director
To: All Employees
DATE: October 06, 2003
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party
I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Jo Goodwin a speedy recovery
and
I'll continue to forward your cards to her. In the meantime, management
has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and give everyone the afternoon
of
the 23rd off with full pay.
Happy
Posted by: Cobb at December 18, 2003 10:10 AM
I think that your analogy has use but also is misleading. In this case, the girls in some cases are being directed to wear them by their families, and oh by the way it's the Jewish kids that are getting beat up and firebombed.
I agree with you that Chirac's answer would only make sense if this were Ataturk's fez ruling and for Ataturk's reasons...
Posted by: Chap at December 21, 2003 10:19 AM