Cobb

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I read your response to my comment and I must say that I was disappointed on two levels. First, for a "deep, cold" iceberg, you sure do melt fast. Your piece on black frat cosmology was no attempt at deadpan humor. That was your honest accounting of how you see things. Whereas I appreciate the fact that my response has caused the iceberg to melt a little by making a feeble attempt to disconnect from your ignorant commentary, I hope you don't think I'm going to let you off that easy. You done met the Titanic, bruh.

Secondly, whereas I always relish the opportunity to be quoted, I despise being quoted out of context. Why don't you post my entire response to you on the front page and let the readers decide. I had a lot more to say than you gave me credit for.

I am no hardcore Afrocentrist. I am a realist. What makes me rather ill is pseudo black intellectual "Greeks" like yourself who memorized the book "Big Words for Dummies" back to back and now fancy themselves intellectuals. You remind me of the brother who read a self-help book, learned how to suck his own dick and now regards himself a sex therapist. You're really not as smart as you think you are, Archie.

Now before you race to cop the pugnacious arrogance mantra to quickly, maybe you should stop and think a min. Don't you see that your sick little hierarchical explication of black fraternities is rife with self-hatred? And please don't hand me that brotherhood BS. You and I both know that the entire point of being a "Black Greek" (Oh, how I wish you could see how that phrase is oxymoronic!)is to illustrate just what you wrote about: The pseudo hierarchy of the Black niggerati and how you are at the top of it. You, know--the "top" second banana. I can't wait to hear your explanation of the sororities. My AKA friend has her paper bag ready. And don't worry, those fat, black, nappy-headed Zetas won't be a problem either. They know Betty and Veronica were Delta and AKA respectively.

You mindless little negro. You don't even have a clue of the ignorance you espouse under the guise of intellectualism. Now let's deconstruct your statement that "ordinary Christianity, properly practiced, is more than enough to provide spiritual liberation from the crush of mindless Eurocentrism." Now, you know, Massa would be real proud to hear you say that. It took us 300 years of slavehood before we "practiced properly" and the Great White Savior, Christ, came to free us. Or was that Abe Lincoln. You'll have to excuse me. I get my White Saviors confused.

And as for that cluebat you offered. I'll pass. I know a better place for it, actually. There might be enough room there if you move your head just a little.

Damn. You really sound like your girl left you for a frat bro.

If I spent my college career doing nothing other than being an Alpha, you would have a point. A crudely made and insulting one against me as a person and not against the fraternity itself, but a point nonetheless. You can call Michele Lezama and ask her what else I was doing in 1984. That will take you several meters down the peak of the iceberg.

I have decided after some grumbling, not to verbally slap you around too hard because I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt. Somewhere underneath all that hateration, is a point. I'm trying to get to it and deal with it and so I will. Not because I think you actually deserve it, but it's what I want to do.

Part of the reason is because, as I said, I have transcripts from Bernal-Lefkowitz which any afrocentrist worth a damn would most certainly reference. Another is because I forwarded you comments from this debate from SCAA that was had 10 years ago. I've heard all this stuff before and I've got archives to prove it.

Now if I'm a mindless little negro, I am one with my own domains and my own weblog. If you have a great deal of wisdom to share with the world, I think you'll have to do a bit better than a hotmail account. Are you using your mom's computer too? I fail to see where your backup is coming from. Just dropping the name of Asante and talking shit to frat brothers is not doing anything constructive. I'm very interested in hearing something from you other than your dozens skills that is worth taking up the bytes on my site. Perhaps a quote from Asante's book, perhaps your own views on how Christianity fails as a liberation theology. Something somebody might learn from when they read this blog, other than 'blah blah black greeks suck, blah blah you suck'. Grow up and give my readers something to think about.

You don't seem to give any credit to anyone born before Asante, nor have you given any example of what Asante has demonstrated that's so great. What's up with that?

Oh yeah and one more thing, you should be aware that the Titanic lost.

I love intellectual sparring. But the match up here is rather one-sided. I feel like I'm in a swim match with a quadraplegic.

Look, I had hoped that I could get you to see what I now see you can't see. My entire discourse was a mini treatise on the white racist epsitemological, ontological, and axiological asssumptions you put forth in the guise of explaining "black frat cosmology" (please note my absence of "crude" language).

If you would sit down and stop being the smart one for just a minute, you might be able to see the point in what I said to you in my responses. But you are too busy being full of yourself. Did it ever dawn on you for just one second that I am not writing from a point of envy. You are so convinced you are who you think you are it hasn't struck you yet that you are just a fabrication of Western social constructionism.

Assuming my girlfriend left me for a frat boy not only continues this ill-conceived notion and self-delusion you have that being a black frat boy is some prized sociological place, you dismiss the notion of my own place within this societal construct. Look, I am really sorry you can not see the point of all this. I am sorry that I dragged you out of your delusion of being the upper crust nigger that you think you are (sorry for the lapse into crudity. I should have said "N" word). But don't you see your little hierarchy of the niggerati which placed the group you perceived as less important than you at the bottom and you at the top is merely your subconscious submersion into the same western conceptionism that has relegated YOU as a black man to secondary status? Rather than deconstruct the system that disenfranchised you, you have created a system among your fellow disenfranchisees that has placed you at the top of the disenfranchised. It is so sad that you can't see the irony in that. Really, really sad.

Now, as far as your bragging on having your own domain and weblog, I refuse to compare penis size with you (besides you might come up short there, too). But let me say this: Perhaps you have seen me arguing these same issues on the Fox News Network or MSNBC before. Maybe you've even read some of my published writings. You never know. I know that hardly compares to having one's own weblog. But hey, erbody can't be Archie.

I've had enough of this for now. I am going to relax on my chaise lounge and pop in my favorite DVD, "Iceberg". Or is it "Titanic"? Naw, can't be named that. The Titanic lost.

It appears that you really can't get over the fact that I pledged a fraternity in college. You seem to believe, despite everything I have written on the web, that I consider fraternity rivalries my primary sociological orientation towards blackfolks. You're so off base in this that I can't even be bothered to refute it to you even though I gave you a clue about NSBE.

As for my secondary status as a fabrication of Western social constructionism who is subconciously submerged, I honestly wonder if you believe that if I started dissing frats, and using terms like 'niggerati' that it would lead to my mental liberation. I was honestly interested if care about those souls you seem to believe are permanently lost to the system, and how you intend to reach them and with what message. But all you've done here is call me names, based on your wack assumption that I'm a frat rat. It was a joke, bro. You still don't get it.

It seems to me that youngsters like yourself are bound to come to their senses sooner or later. Everything in mdcbowen.org will be here when you wake up n years from now. I'm always interested in black mental liberation, and my drumbeats have been on the web for 10 years, at at the Xerox black network before there was an internet, at NSBE conferences during college and marching with Karenga when I was in the first grade. Always have been always will be.

I would have liked to know where you were coming from. Unfortunately for this discussion, I don't bother with Fox News or MSNBC. In fact when I google up 'fuhreal brother' all I get is funeral information. Which is apt, because this conversation is dead, in this little corner of the web under the heading of Souvlaki. Damn.

Let me know when you get a real name.